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Post by infromthemist on May 27, 2008 17:54:12 GMT -5
Yes...I happen to LOVE this film. I realize that it is somewhat controversial and that other folks may not like it, but I am curious as to who else likes this little gem besides me. ;D
I must say that it is a rare thing, indeed, for Hollywood to produce such a fantastic film and, who knows, maybe that is why V for Vendetta is such a favorite of mine.
But that's just me....
Anyway, does anyone else like this film?
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Post by wank_herod on May 27, 2008 18:18:08 GMT -5
Being a long time fan of Alan Moore (and having had spent a number of evenings with him and friends at one of our local pubs, what with him living about half a mile away from me!), I was quite excited about seeing this movie, but expected the worst - after all, this is a Hollywood film we're talking about, and as far as I'm concerned, Hollywood films are the pits of the Earth.
To my surprise, I quite enjoyed it. Okay, it doesn't have the complexity of the graphic novel, some of the sub-plots were nowhere to be seen, but overall, it was a pretty faithful adaptation, retaining the general feel of the graphic novel. Good film.
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Post by The Question on May 27, 2008 18:19:50 GMT -5
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Post by wank_herod on May 27, 2008 18:27:26 GMT -5
Only if you touch me in a way that sexually pleases me. Actually, Alan Moore is the most down-to-earth guy I've ever met. He has always refused to move away from Northampton, his hometown, he runs from the limelight whenever he senses it is getting near, he is quite happy wandering into town, going to the pub, sitting/getting drunk with friends/admirers and chatting about politics, films, magic (one of his big interests) comics, life, the universe and everything. He's a jolly good egg. I take it that you're a fan too?
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Post by shaggyrand on May 27, 2008 18:47:55 GMT -5
I was disgusted by the movie. Dumbed down shit... especially the way they showed V as a hero. He's not. The Wachowski's should be put against a wall and shot... no I really mean that. I await the day that these pretentious fucks are run out on a rail.
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Post by infromthemist on May 27, 2008 19:14:15 GMT -5
Wow....have you, by chance, read the graphic novel?
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Post by infromthemist on May 27, 2008 19:19:50 GMT -5
I saw the film before I read the graphic novel and, I must say, I was very put off because the two were so different. After I got over the initial shock, I realized that, although the two were/are completely different, each is excellent in it's own right. That's why I love them both.
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Post by The Question on May 27, 2008 20:07:46 GMT -5
Only if you touch me in a way that sexually pleases me. Actually, Alan Moore is the most down-to-earth guy I've ever met. He has always refused to move away from Northampton, his hometown, he runs from the limelight whenever he senses it is getting near, he is quite happy wandering into town, going to the pub, sitting/getting drunk with friends/admirers and chatting about politics, films, magic (one of his big interests) comics, life, the universe and everything. He's a jolly good egg. I take it that you're a fan too? Yeah, I've seen an interview Alan gave with...I think it might have been Fortean Times on C4 ages back...he seemed like a laid-back fella, and I like that he's willing to always stand by his ideals. And yes, I'm a fan...the man is a writer and a damned fine one, and screw anyone who puts it down because he writes for comics
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Post by wank_herod on May 28, 2008 2:11:47 GMT -5
I was disgusted by the movie. Dumbed down shit... Fair comment, but it was never going to be any other way. In fact, I swore I'd never see the movie because it was obviously going to be dumbed down, especially for American audiences (and don't take that the wrong way, American posters here - I'm just talking about the US mass market. After all, box office takings was the bottom line). They even put that little explanation of Guy Fawkes at the start so that Americans would know where the film's roots lay. Bearing all this in mind, I thought it was one of the better offerings from Hollywood.
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Post by The Question on May 28, 2008 5:51:30 GMT -5
I was disgusted by the movie. Dumbed down shit... Fair comment, but it was never going to be any other way. In fact, I swore I'd never see the movie because it was obviously going to be dumbed down, especially for American audiences (and don't take that the wrong way, American posters here - I'm just talking about the US mass market. After all, box office takings was the bottom line). They even put that little explanation of Guy Fawkes at the start so that Americans would know where the film's roots lay. Bearing all this in mind, I thought it was one of the better offerings from Hollywood. Exactly. It was obviously going to fair badly if you compare it to the source material, there's no way a Hollywood studio would pick up a comic book property and let it play with politics coming before box-office appeal. As big-budget popcorn movies go, it's probably as edgy as you'll get without going outside their safety zone. I'd rather have seen a faithful version, of course, but not only would they have needed to explain who Guy Fawkes was but they'd probably have required half an hour explaining the socio-political climate in which Moore wrote the comic and in which time period it is so heavily invested in, since the generations seeing this in the cinemas probably wouldn't have a clue about what was going off in the world during the Thatcher/Regan era. So it's swings and roundabouts, to me. Shame Moore's work hasn't had at least one really faithful cinematic outing though, none of them have come close to capturing the essence of his work. I was especially disappointed with The League of Gentlemen...how they managed to fuck that one up so spectacularly from such an ingenious little idea and fun, well-crafted stories is quite beyond me. Be interesting to see just how wrong or right they get Watchmen...my internal barometer is currently pointing to "Oh, bollocks!"... And of course, Wank[/b[, you knew I was only going to touch you in sexually depraved way, it'd be unlike me not to...
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Post by shaggyrand on May 28, 2008 9:37:04 GMT -5
I was especially disappointed with The League of Gentlemen...how they managed to fuck that one up so spectacularly from such an ingenious little idea and fun, well-crafted stories is quite beyond me. That's because it wasn't originally League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. A screenplay with a similar idea called 'Cast of Characters' had been passed around for years. When LoEG was optioned the studio took the Cast script and plugged in the LoEG characters... which wasn't hard because Capt. Nemo was already there, Dracula got a sex change, and one of the two American CIA agents (Huck Finn) was aged and became Quartermain... There was a rather large lawsuit. Moore said he'd not even take royalty money from films based on his works... and has had his name removed from all comic work he doesn't own.
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Post by evolutionbaby on May 28, 2008 10:42:27 GMT -5
I LOVE it,what I found oddly coincidental,was that before the film, all that "bird flu" shizz was all over the news,and the film was released, and suddenly, no bird flu news. Seemed a bit odd to me,lol,turned me into a conspiracy theorist.
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Post by infromthemist on May 28, 2008 12:14:58 GMT -5
Uh-oh...made you into a conspiracy theorist, huh? Well, for me, that's a good thing! Any movie that makes you think about things is worth its weight in gold.
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Post by evolutionbaby on May 29, 2008 7:35:42 GMT -5
Very true. I just found it VERY coincidental that the film mocked the use of bird flu to control the population,and suddenly,no more dead birds found,lol. I think it was possibly the best film to come out that year, its rare that a TRUELY good film gets a cinematic release.
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Post by The Question on May 29, 2008 11:29:57 GMT -5
I was especially disappointed with The League of Gentlemen...how they managed to fuck that one up so spectacularly from such an ingenious little idea and fun, well-crafted stories is quite beyond me. That's because it wasn't originally League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. A screenplay with a similar idea called 'Cast of Characters' had been passed around for years. When LoEG was optioned the studio took the Cast script and plugged in the LoEG characters... which wasn't hard because Capt. Nemo was already there, Dracula got a sex change, and one of the two American CIA agents (Huck Finn) was aged and became Quartermain... There was a rather large lawsuit. Moore said he'd not even take royalty money from films based on his works... and has had his name removed from all comic work he doesn't own. No wonder it was such a mess. I also heard there was a lot of "tension" between Connery and Norrington, which can't have helped matters.
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Post by infromthemist on Jul 9, 2008 17:52:06 GMT -5
Very true. I just found it VERY coincidental that the film mocked the use of bird flu to control the population,and suddenly,no more dead birds found,lol. I think it was possibly the best film to come out that year, its rare that a TRUELY good film gets a cinematic release. Sorry it took me so long to see this one...I am still so far behind...but I'm working on it. I agree with your post, evolution. I just wish that the film had received more recognition. V for Vendetta at least deserved an Oscar for Best Film and Best Actor. To me, Hugo Weaving outdid himself. Well, they all did.
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