|
Post by shaggyrand on May 30, 2008 13:47:49 GMT -5
I gotta say I'm sick of gushing love for cheap twist endings. I'm mainly gonna rant, but please feel free to join in (This is just my knee jerk reaction to reading the similar thread on the other board).
I gotta say it the majority of twist endings are shit. They're usually broadcast incredibly early in the movie. They're used way too often. If you can't see the majority of them coming you need to be taken away and sterilized to stop your damaged genes from mixing with the rest of society. Pay attention to the fucking movie and stop being impressed by cheap tricks. If you didn't see the twists for Dead Silence, Sixth Sense, High Tension, The Others, Frailty, The Decent, The Mist & May (I could go on... but these seem to get the most love) coming a mile away hang you head in shame and not try to make yourself feel better by claiming that they were great. Now I'll give you slack for not picking up on the twist for some movies (like Sleepaway Camp, they blow the twist in the second scene, but it's easy to miss). Stop giving lazy 'I don't know how to end this stupid movie' twists love either... Exercise your brain and stop trying to dumb the rest of us down by attempting to drag us to your level.... Not all twists are shit, I'm just tired of hearing them being overtly praised. Thank you.
|
|
|
Post by hardcockzombie on May 30, 2008 17:36:18 GMT -5
I agree, and I blame The Twilight Zone. That's basically what M. Night's career is: A string of Twilight Zone stories.
|
|
|
Post by The Question on May 30, 2008 20:26:37 GMT -5
My objection to the majority of "twists", particularly in recent fims, is that they tend to be one of two things:
1. They're window-dressing, a twist for the sake of having one because it's a fashionable thing to do, not because it's rational and a logical step for the movie to end on, and it consequently cheapens the film, it doesn't add to it. Or;
2. The entire movie is constructed around this "twist", which if it isn't up to much means the whole film is just window-dressing. It's held together by a gimmick, and once you've seen it (or in the worst case scenario, and is often the way, has been clearly telegraphed five minutes in and the rest of the time is just sitting there waiting for the movie to catch up with where you already are) has no replay value whatsoever.
And although it's not horror, I would like now to publicly decry the most overpraised "twist" movie in the world: The Usual Suspects. I have plenty of reasons for disliking it, but the main one (and the one applicable here) is that the twist is a total con. Unlike The Sixth Sense, for example, where you can rewatch the movie a second time and see how knowing the ending is played throughout the movie, with all the clues there on the screen pointing the way, The Usual Suspects does none of that. You could never "see it coming" because there are no clues to it onscreen at any time, none that you can see, it's all shown in flashbacks which are new footage, they're not in the movie itself prior to that. So it's a narrative twist, not a cinematic one, and it's the cheapest form of trickery that's as bad as "He woke up and it was all a dream!" "Bah, humbug!", I says!
|
|
|
Post by shaggyrand on May 30, 2008 22:28:15 GMT -5
The twist for a the sake of a twist... yeah, I was going to ramble about that as well... but I decided that if I did I wouldn't be able to stop. Agreed with both points.
|
|
|
Post by buntcakepan on May 30, 2008 22:46:02 GMT -5
I agree, and I blame The Twilight Zone. That's basically what M. Night's career is: A string of Twilight Zone stories. Yeah I agree. It got really old seeing them in his movies, especially in The Village.
|
|
|
Post by evolutionbaby on May 31, 2008 10:24:20 GMT -5
I dont mind twists in movies,but I saw The Village twist coming a mile off,I knew from the moment he said "Your grandfather was shot for money".....He was more likely to have been killed with a bayonet in those days,lol.
|
|
Jerry Ex
Horror Fiend
You're one spooky motherfucker, man!!!!!!
Posts: 76
|
Post by Jerry Ex on May 31, 2008 19:45:02 GMT -5
Unhinged. A pretty shitty movie, but it's got a twist that almost nobody sees coming.
|
|
Tara ntula
Horror Fiend
"...they all come in and they...rip you to pieces."
Posts: 56
|
Post by Tara ntula on Jun 1, 2008 13:29:02 GMT -5
My biggest frustration with twist endings lies in the fact that everyone--friends, critics, the god damn movie trailer--informs you of a 'spectacular, you won't see this coming twist ending'. You go into the film expecting a twist, have it figured out within 10 minutes and then spend the rest of the film pissed off at the world.
|
|
mdgeist316
Gorehound
The cake is a lie....
Posts: 29
|
Post by mdgeist316 on Jun 5, 2008 15:12:07 GMT -5
I have this feeling that when a director knows his movie is probably not going to draw anyone, they spit out nonsense about an "incredible twist" which is usually so obvious that it embarrasses me when people start gushing over it. Now some have been done really well (Saw, High Tension, Sleepaway Camp, etc) come to mind. But aside from Unbreakable and Sixth Sense, Shamalyan's twists have been terrible.
|
|
|
Post by Matttttttttttt on Jun 25, 2008 13:58:39 GMT -5
Movies like Saw and M. Night Shyamalan's earlier work are the cause for all of this modern "twisting" in horror. I don't mind twists when they're done well or when they are few and far between. It's become incredibly stupid because we expect twists more often than we don't because of this trend. You know what pisses me off? Twist-whores! You know the kind...I have several friends like this. They're either pissed when they don't get a twist or absolutely love any movie just because it has a twist ending. For those of you from the IMDb boards, I'm sure you know Donald. All of the "script ideas" he would run by us would have some kind of a stupid twist in the end. It's mostly kids who are growing up on the aforementioned movies that tend to think this way.
|
|