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Post by buntcakepan on Jun 24, 2008 23:26:06 GMT -5
Any horrors you find to be overrated? If so list them. Give any good reason you find them to be so if you want to.
Horrors I find to be overrated:
Jaws - Not a bad movie overall, but way to overhyped and not scary like many make it out to be. Roy Scheider could have used a bigger boat though.
When a Stranger Calls (1979) - First 20 mins were good, but the rest sucked. Copied to much from Black Christmas.
My Bloody Valentine - Good concept, but badly executed.
Scream 2 - Starts off alright, but went down hill fast. Ending was totally ridiculous.
Scream 3 - Even worse than the second. What was Wes thinking? Totally unneeded sequel and a totally terrible attempt at a "twist" like ending. What a shitload of fuck.
Saw movies - Overrated by shitty teens none the less.
Dog Soldiers - Overrated werewolf movie that tries to take itself seriously, with a bad end result.
It - Tim Curry is good as pennywise, but other than that it's just mediocre. Book was a lot better than this.
Sleepaway Camp - A few good kills, but acting was shitty and lacked good characters. Tried to hard as well to compare to F13. Twist was alright I guess, but it was expected.
Blair Witch Project - Not nearly as original as made out to be. Concept was used before and done a lot better. Characters really got annoying after half an hour. Only one really scary moment in it and that was it. Ending was rather meh as well.
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Post by eswtg on Jun 25, 2008 5:40:31 GMT -5
Oh shit! only just realised Tim Curry was pennywise! doh!
I liked Dog soldiers, yes took itself seriously but came off as a really good british tongue and cheek horror IMO. To be honest most films are "overated" mainly due to the extremes of hype, marketing and simple continual hope that one day you'll hit that pinnicle of seeing a film that is as scary as your imagination and the tension you build up! Its a heroin hit, its never as good once you get used to horrors and films in general but you keep on searching and seeing, searching and seeing...
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Post by wank_herod on Jun 25, 2008 6:06:35 GMT -5
Its a heroin hit, its never as good once you get used to horrors... I totally agree with you here. I no longer look to be scared by horror films, and haven't done for years. Being scared by horror films is something that belongs to my early teenage years, a long time ago. No film will ever scare me as much as 'Psycho', 'Don't Go In The House', 'Scanners' and a few others did when I first started watching horror. These days, I tend to look for other things in film. Much like life, you appreciate it in different ways as you get older. Overrated horrors? For me, it's Romero's 'Dead' series. Yeah, I'm in the vast minority here, which I guess means that they're not actually overrated, but there's something about Romero's style which does nothing for me. 'Dawn' was nothing special, 'Day' was pretty shite, 'Land' was total rubbish. 'Night' I still haven't seen. Shame on me.
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Post by gotensive on Jun 26, 2008 2:04:18 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of any of these highly revered Horror movies...
- The Exorcist (1973) - The Thing (1982) - Rosemary's Baby (1968)
I would add Dawn Of The Dead (1978) to the list, but I have only seen it once, and that was at least six months ago. It needs a re-watch.
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Post by Hug_the_Dead on Jun 26, 2008 6:16:45 GMT -5
For me, it's probably Saw. I can't think of anything else at the moment.
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Post by pain93 on Jun 27, 2008 19:39:43 GMT -5
I am only gonna agree with Saw & Jaws
Scream 2 & 3 are supposed to be ridiculous and funny.
As for myself I pick The Thing (82)
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Post by The Question on Jun 28, 2008 7:07:41 GMT -5
Any horrors you find to be overrated? If so list them. Give any good reason you find them to be so if you want to. Horrors I find to be overrated: Jaws - Not a bad movie overall, but way to overhyped and not scary like many make it out to be. Roy Scheider could have used a bigger boat though. When a Stranger Calls (1979) - First 20 mins were good, but the rest sucked. Copied to much from Black Christmas. My Bloody Valentine - Good concept, but badly executed. Scream 2 - Starts off alright, but went down hill fast. Ending was totally ridiculous. Scream 3 - Even worse than the second. What was Wes thinking? Totally unneeded sequel and a totally terrible attempt at a "twist" like ending. What a shitload of fuck. Saw movies - Overrated by shitty teens none the less. Dog Soldiers - Overrated werewolf movie that tries to take itself seriously, with a bad end result. It - Tim Curry is good as pennywise, but other than that it's just mediocre. Book was a lot better than this. Sleepaway Camp - A few good kills, but acting was shitty and lacked good characters. Tried to hard as well to compare to F13. Twist was alright I guess, but it was expected. Blair Witch Project - Not nearly as original as made out to be. Concept was used before and done a lot better. Characters really got annoying after half an hour. Only one really scary moment in it and that was it. Ending was rather meh as well. Saw is an absolute pile of badly acted dreck. There, I said it. Aside from the aspect of the "poetic justice" of the cruel traps, which is entertaining (but not novel - hell, even Vincent Price was doing the same thing in the 70s in The Abominable Dr Phibes, only it's more fun there because it doesn't take itself too seriously), there's not a thing to recommend it. It has that irritating MTV cutting thing that plain pisses me off because it's style trying to compensate for an inability to actually create tension properly, and in the history of risible twist endings, that had one of the very worst because it's plain ridiculous. I agree with you on Jaws to an extent, but when you get a movie that was as huge and popular in a mainstream way as that (I mean, if you asked non-horror fans what their top 5 horror movies were, you can be pretty sure in 90% of cases this would make their list), you're naturally going to hear a lot of hype about it, which no film can live up to. I never heard of Scream 2/3 being rated enough to be overrated, I always got the impression they were just thought of as sequels designed to cash-in on the incredibly successful and lucrative original. Now, if you want to discuss whether Scream was overrated... IT is one of those weird things I'll never get why so many people were terrified by it, I think it must be a fear of clowns thing, which I don't have. Like the source material it comes from , it has a strong first half, when it's dealing with the kids' stuff, and a weak denouement (especially that stupid, lameass spider thing...I appreciate they can only afford so much on a TV budget, but do something other than show it then). Tim Curry was a lot fo fun, though. The Blair Witch Project, again not sure if it's overrated because it seems to be one of those love it/hate it films, you don't get a lot of people sitting on the fence. I hate every single frame of it, for the record, I've got scarier home videos of family Christmas dinners lying around the house.
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Post by The Question on Jun 28, 2008 7:16:47 GMT -5
My votes for overrated go to:
Phenomena (aka Creepers) - Dario Argento is an overrated director anyway, he's got style, I'll give him that, but that's about it, things like narrative, character development, consistency, depth are out of his grasp. His better films, like Tenebrae and The Bird with the Crystal Plumage skirt around his shallowness by being at least semi-interesting thrillers. Phenomena gets an ungodly amount of praise on the boards, and though I loved it as a kid, unless there's a lot of nostalgia I fail to see why it should get it from people watching it through adult eyes. It's just plainly ridiculous, badly paced, senseless rubbish. And don't give me that "dreamlike" bollocks as a defence, because that's bullshit - there is no indication whatsoever that this isn't supposed to be anything other than real. The elements that comprise the plot come across like Argento had a few loose ideas for movies, but none of them sustained itself sufficiently, so he just rammed them all together - the bugs, the murders, the child, the cheeky reference to Poe's The Murders in the Rue Morgue in the final reel, which springs out at you from nowhere and for no good reason - it's one big incoherent mess.
Evil Dead II - this one's probably going to set the cat amongst the pigeons...don't get me wrong, I like it, but I just think it gets far too much praise of which it's undeserving. First, because The Evil Dead is the better of the two (scarier and the humour is blacker) and second because it's just not as funny as it thinks it is, and after successive viewings I find it getting less funny each time. Why? Because The Three Stooges weren't that funny, unless you're about 5 and having someone smack a guy on the head and it make a "BOING" noise makes you laugh. They went for cheap laughs meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator in terms of those old comedies, showing none of the finesse or timing of the likes of Buster Keaton, Laurel & Hardy or The Marx Brothers. And since Raimi is obssessed with recreating Three Stooges violence but adding goop, it just doesn't stand up to time. Re-Animator, Braindead, Dellamorte Dellamore, they do because the scripts are far better and the humour's sharper.
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